Once she was done, she cut herself off from him. I'm laughing at Scam'Ann and Sham'Ann. LOL. Whats even MORE puzzling is how she bought that first house. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. R222 everybody was exaggerating the crap out of their income and assets when applying for loans back then and getting away with it. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. Because how dare murdered, discarded toddlers not be beautiful. Everyones awful. And that anyone who wants to dissect the situation, including dissecting the victim, is also CRAZY and therefore thinks the perp should go free and the victim deserved to die. I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. The family is survived by Shananns father, Frank Rzucek; Mother, Sandra Onorati Rzucek; Brother, Frankie Rzucek whom were inseparable and best friends; Uncle, Rocky Onorati; Aunt, Sharyn Onorati; Aunt, Robynn Odom; Uncle, Steve Onorati; and many nieces, nephews, cousins and close friends. Covert Narcissist are incapable of real love and learn early on to mimic. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. R244, I firmly believe she was emotionally abusing and exploiting him. I think if Shannan had lived she would have continued with her hypochondria, her over-spending, her delusional thinking, and would have made her children neurotic messes. "The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy.". And worse he crushed his own murdered childrens skulls through a narrow opening into an oil drum. (And filed for bankruptcy in 2015!). The friend calling 911 early didn't leave him time to dispose of her purse, keys, kids' medicines, etc. How did they pay off the $400k debt? Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If we assume that she killed the children, why did he not turn her to the police and secretly dumped the bodies of his children that she killed. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. R181 what was the friends account of her? That was the elusive diagnosis that put them in debt this time. This baby in my belly deserves his full love, she texted her friend, who had advised her to go through Chris phone for signs of infidelity. I'm not going to bother researching Colorado's rules. She got along well with people. One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. With the anticipation of her son to join them she knew he would be loved by his sisters and family. Thank you for posting it! He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. Ill never get tired of speculating about her Munchhausens. I could see there being an inexplicable level of anger there that could explode inside Chris & make him snapand be crazy & cold as fuck with her, but two scared little girls? Not even once. Some features on this site require registration. Shanann Cathryn Watts, 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 & Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 & unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018. Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. Shanann hidden in a very shallow grave. Services are entrusted to Boles Funeral Home of Southern Pines. I do not like her, but I can see why she was a breath of fresh air for Chris. Im not an expert, but I dont think asthma is terribly elusive (its not LUPUS). 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As reported by People, "Over the summer, Shanann [Watts . Now, I'm not saying the kids deserved to die - but the wife just seemed like a massive pain in the ass. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche], TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Visit the post for more. No wonder Chris was amazed with NK. There is a FB group that has mentioned the Munchhausen, but its also something that the famous troll talks about and goofs on, so its been derailed a bit. Written by on 27 febrero, 2023. Lucky for these scammers theres HIPAA. Im not doubting exactly, I just need it explained. Perhaps they were close at one time. R218: Consider yourself lucky. Walk away, wimp. The Mead, CO explosion occured a year before the Watts murders. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. I cant come back like this. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Press J to jump to the feed. That whole stunt with the MIL was something my mother would have done. Shanann and her two daughters, Bella and Celeste, were reported missing on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado. Shan'ann's former boss and lover, Hisham. At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. 19398 Hathaway Ln, Warrensville Heights, OH 44122 was recently sold on 08-18-2022 for $164,000. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Excellent observation, R228. Financially she had left him no way out. Why would you bury your dead wife only a foot and a half underground? What do you mean? Over a similar if slightly shorter span of time, Chris Watts moved 7 times, averaging about a move per year. She did everything to come across as the perfect, crunchy-earthy, cool progressive lesbian mom. R169: I dont think either one were straight when it comes to spending. I assume she was young and fit back then? Only thing I can think of even though I dont think he has it in him is another girl. Auto mechanics are catnip to gold diggers. That was a detailed and well written article, R227; better than most others I have read about his new confession. John Forbes officiating. in Carthage, NC. Im new to DL, didnt even know it existed until 2 days ago whilst I was googling all that spoke about Frau Shanann Watts, asides from reddit then this is the best place to talk about her, YouTube is full of irrational crazy people that cut you down if you say anything less than Shanann was a Saint, thankgods I can be real here. LEONARD does not believe that the divorce decree addressed the life insurance policies. 25 Feb/23. Watts, 35, reportedly detailed the gruesome slaying of Shanann Watts in one of his prison letters - and he also revealed that he'd been thinking about killing her for "weeks." 15 Watts' wife was 15 weeks pregnant. And everything is LUPUS. Rims, tinted windows, etc. a loan to build this house? Shanann was running another scam, Im positive. site without all this bureaucratic nonsense, She must have been extremely annoying when alive. 06:51 GMT 17 Aug 2018. I just dont get that at all. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. The mother seemed to know or assume that her two daughters had staged the creepy dead doll, writing around 2.30pm: 'At least they covered the body together. And Shanann invites Josh and Cassie to live with them so Josh can get a job with Ace Hardware. Most states are nowadays. Dont get me started on this grifty broad. I'm not R147 but the first 3 seem to fit R150. But judges usually have some discretion in the awarding of child support, which can include maintaining a house for the use of the children. Also said that she claimed to have been a domestic violence victim but was friendly with her ex husband. The fact that the physician performing her autopsy found "no evidence of disease". He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Ill bet he tried so hard to keep his 401k funded. But then it was built up with more McMansions pretty quickly, though. R154: why did Chris have her sell her house, drag her across the country, purchase a $400K house he could not afford in his name only, then murder her and their children? Like an entire store's worth. R162: A woman with a job equals whore in your world. On a waitress/retail managers salary. And there was that video of them where she encouraged them to smack Daddy! And just her overall demeanor that he was a dumb wallet for them to drain. Dirty South is a custom car shop. I listened to the RedHanded podcast posted upthread. The women next to her in that pic are just fatter. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Even NK barely talked about what he was like. Is R58 a ped-o? They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. Of course we can say nice things about her, too. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background." . He learned of this case from social media and news. r50 frankly even the kids seemed hard to root for. Shanann, who did direct sales for a multi-level marketing company that sold health supplements, was extremely active on Facebook, posting clients' weight-loss success stories as well as her photos from her own seemingly happy home life on a daily basis. I just dont get the callousness towards the girls. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. My assumption is that LK would like to stay as unconnected to this murder as he can. Study up! John Forbes officiating. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. SHANANN was in high school when LEONARD first met her. Wife of Christopher Lee (Chris) Watts and Private I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. Otherwise they can claim whatever and whos to say they are lying? She did not "purchase" any house. She seems like an attention whore. Made disparaging remarks about the size and decor of others homes and cars. I think men (more than women) think Chris Watts is attractive. But despite Chris' violent actions, he seemed to have the support of his parents. KILLER dad Chris Watts revealed grisly details of his pregnant wife's murder in a bombshell prison letter, according to reports. That router article is amazing work Nick! Shanann Watts, 34, had two young daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste - who went by CeCe-, 3, with Chris Watts. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. According to Good Housekeeping, Watts played the role of a concerned husband when Shanann's friend reported her missing after being unable to get in contact with her. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Why does everyone keep saying, 'But back to Shannan?' We were so blessed to have such a joyful and wonderful daughter whose beauty was that of a doll. I had no idea it was that much! Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. What evidence is there that Shanann was making up her diagnosis of Lupus, whether or not she was "a hypochondriac and OCD"? R38, Id love to know how they were able to afford their lifestyle, too. She was pretty smart with her lupus act, because, like fibromyalgia, it has broad diagnostic criteria that mostly depends on patient reporting. One of the detectives admonished him, "Yes, but we I am asking you about Shannan now". What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. Everybody was buying houses they couldn't afford and hoping to flip them for an easy profit. R23, the medical bills were because she had factitious disorder. The discovery documents released by the Weld County District Attorney's office last week related to the murder investigation include an anecdote Which is what no one can explain. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE W Wanda Sweitzer 41 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Book Series Covers Science Today Moving In Together Baby Hospital Rocket Science 100 Book If so she more recently passed away as well at only 33 and leaving their 6 year old with neither mom or dad just tragic https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. I also love when people say she got a huge settlement from her first husband in their divorce. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. Police are expected to release further details on Monday, when formal charges are announced. I sure hope he does. lol, Chris Watts is a victim of his own choices, that's about it. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. She was 25. Grahm Coder says repeatedly, Help us bring them out of the cold." They filed for chapter 7 BK in 2015 too, same year as the Watts. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. R136. With Shanann (disclaimer: no, of course she didnt deserve to die!) R146 If the Watts murders hadn't occurred I think as time went on the children would've been increasingly, negatively impacted by Shannan's hypochondria, delusional thinking, over-spending, vindictiveness and general megalomania. Shanann was married to Chris Watts from November 3, 2012, till the time of her death on 13 August 2018. Maybe I will become Jesus. \ 25 FEB-3 MARCH 2023 More adventures in \ } i " Back for the final series the Star Wars galaxy SRY. Idk how that bitch is still getting TV interviews after the cops were likeyeah this is bullshit. And did she legally change it? Yes . Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. Chris was a real bore, apparently. Chris also said he couldnt talk to her, she wouldnt listen. Cheating is their hallmark. It's 2:50 am and I can't sleep. I would love to have a conjugal visit Chris Watts! $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. She was a little grifter bitch. The description of what he did to those little girls. Only parents can say that. You live in Colorado and you dont go on hikes? After several days of publicly protesting that he had not seen his wife or daughters after leaving for work on Monday, Watts broke down and confessed to the murders on Wednesday, police said. See home details for 19398 Hathaway Ln and find similar homes for sale now in Warrensville Heights, OH on Trulia. Police footage shows the . Just bookmarking threads for future reading when I have time. Didnt like his Mustang, made him sell it. r255/r257 is a moron. R166: Do you have evidence of this scamming and embezzlement? Fact: Court documents listed Shanann as a co-owner of Dirty South. Today, February 1, was Shannan's due date for her unborn baby. ". [quote] Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. R89, what EVIDENCE is there that Shanann had lupus or infertility? Bella especially went through absolute hell. Why? Chris watts should never get out of prison. SHANANN would stay gone, but he was never concerned that something happened to her.LEONARD knew that SHANANN first worked with cell phones when he met her. Here's the latest of countless DL threads on that hot, murdering husband for you, r5. She was not confrontational and more withdrew.#ShanannWatts #ChrisWattschris watts, true crime, true crime history, watts crime, watts family, cece watts, bella watts, tori hartman, chris watts history, chris watts timeline, live video, cbs news, colorado man. How did they swing this house?! Shannon too did a lot for the family. The following day, Chris spoke with local media outlets from . Technically, Chris had power in a divorce action, but because he was so trapped financially, he couldnt even start the process and learn that he did have some options. On Thursday, authorities found three bodies: Shanann was buried in a shallow grave about 40 miles east of their home at a work site belonging to her husband's former employer (which fired him. They were good marks, since they sold everything in 2015, quit their jobs, and moved in with Chris and Shanann for 15 months while Shanann was pregnant with CeCe, who was born July, 2015. Like he wanted the toddlers to suffer. ^ Um, yes she was. does Chris slowly pay it back by making license plates? True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek, Discovery DocumentsEx husbandLeonard King. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. what happens to all their debt now? I think he did the world a favor by offing her. Chris Watts is not a sociopath. He was booked on three counts each of first-degree murder and tampering with physical evidence on Thursday. WHAT? "Red-Handed" has a pretty good podcast about the case. Imagine sitting in a house you cannot afford with two kids and another on the way, and a wife who spends money like it is going out of style and who keeps texting you non-stop about why you aren't responding to her texts, etc.essentially, he married a harpie. R58 even sounds offended that they don't meet his standards for child attractiveness. Take a look at Oh yes. I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. She left her own recorded testimony and out of her own mouth she indictes herself. R150 The overspending was documented on her social media and records about the financial problems are out there as well. Text messages obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by the Daily Mail show Shanann Watts was trying to save her marriage in the weeks before her husband, Chris Watts, murdered her and her two daughters. ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. R145, youre right about that. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. The hetero ladies who get their panties wet over a guy who murdered his wife and kids are creepy. My partner's half sister is like this. LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN took out life insurance policies when they were married around 2004/2005 through USAA. LEONARD actually did not know SHANANNs last name until a few days ago. And it goes beyond coldness eventheres almost like a sadistic quality to the whole thing. @Strawheart, how do you know she didnt kill the little girls? Just curious. It does seem like a few people are looking to justify her murder so that they don't feel guilty about their attraction to Chris, seriously--but I'm assuming it's mostly tongue in cheek, since even if you can feel sympathy for someone snapping and killing a bitchy frau, there's the two innocent children and all r29 I believe Chris only made 60k/year and Shan'ann MAYBE made anither 30k with the Thrive! No, not at all R256. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. The man had the foresight of a gnat and zero sympathy, let alone empathy, for others. and missed three mortgage payments on the house that they couldn't afford. They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. LEONARD denied that he currently had any policies on her life. He was a wimp and trapped himself in a frustrating marriage. Anyway, its amazing that theres another chapter to this story; I wonder what the CO investigators could have possibly flown out to Wisconsin to hear, or what Chris could possibly think is big enough to have them come out there for. Im linking the other active DL thread (focused on Chris Watts) below. R220, did you see that house? I still find this case fascinating. to which CW sensibly says "there's no bringing them back. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. Celeste was born July 17, 2015 in Colorado. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. He used the same blanket to kill 4-year-old Bella . Im sorry shes dead, but she was shady as fuck. Also a little insight into her horrendous personality from someone who knew her way back when. Imagine giving up coffee, snacks, trivial shit -- all to save money, only to come home to the latest $10,000 shipment of Lularoe "inventory". Text and recorded audio files were released by Colorado officials Thursday after an in-prison interview with Chris Watts. But I do view him as a victim. Its crazy & I just dont understand it. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. I think Celeste was adorable. First of all, its doubtful a 100k surgery, or whatever, resulted in a 25k debt. Chris Watts. And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. He's remarried with children; and also suffered the devastating loss of his younger brother in 2016. Here is a entertaining video of hausfraus selling Luluroe via MLM. Chris Watts, 33, is charged with three counts of first-degree . Until her murder, her biggest problem in life was the spelling of her name. Hello. He didnt say much, LE spoke with him briefly the report is in the discovery. Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. R198, I think Chris was better with money, for sure. It doesnt appear that there was any history of beating or physical or sexual abuse with them & Chris (that we know of), so what the fuck happened? Think hes still lying about some details? I feel like I need to add something special to my name too. Anyone have a guess as to why Chris was so brutal with his daughters? I should have been tipped off when I saw how close the Watts' house was to Nosy Nate's; they could have passed a cup of sugar without leaving their kitchens. If the tables had been turned, you bet it would have been called abuse. They withdraw and distance themselves. She spent every minute thanking God and taking care of her precious gift that the Lord had blessed her with. He was a submissive man, and those kinds are always resentful. Please click here to register for free. Chris was broken LONG before he met Shanann. Yes, too little to late on her end. The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. At least we know they have each others back.'. Sounds like he was interested in counseling but she wasn't really into it, I'm guessing. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. Guaranteed she didnt make enough to support herself, she needed Chris pay to keep her illusion going. Bella was born December 17, 2013 in Colorado. I disagree r147, not with your assertions about how the kids would've ended up, but with Chris taking any of it into consideration. He probably considered the kids' murders as a mercy killing. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. I got smacked around for saying it, but Chris is boring and shes much more interesting. Mother of Bella Marie Watts; Celeste Cathryn Watts and Nico Lee Watts And isnt it a fucker that the Topix forums went away? My dear Lord, she set the most amazing trap on Chris, by putting them in crushing debt AGAIN, which prohibited him from even being able to come up with a measly 10k to hire a lawyer to start the divorce process. It made her feel special. Plus the kids looked unusually old in their faces. As r47 says, this case is chock-full of CHARACTERS. "When Shanann Watts blew out the candles on her birthday cake on January 10, 2018, with her two young daughters by her side, she had no idea it would be her last birthday or that all three of them would be dead in the coming year. Jesus. She wanted her name to be unique and to standoutand to make pharmacists nervous about trying to call it out over the PA system without offending her. She was trying to be cool and ethnic with the new spelling and pronounciation of her name. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. Every real life character in this story is interesting, especially the victim. He is a greedy as fuck sociopath. strangled daughters, megyn kelly, shan ann watts post, https://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - Speaking about their relationshiphttps://youtu.be/2MgUoKut3Us She wanted a Lexus. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. Words have devastating consequences. I dont have anything bad to say about her non-scam job at a call center in a childrens hospital. But yeah. They came out here with no jobs, no place to live, a house to sell in NC, and a wedding to plan in NC. Munchausen's, and Munchausen's By Proxy! They're standing on a porch and look sweet and feminine. Chris clearly has the right to sue Le-Vel. Shanann was such a grifter. Colorado takes moving, and parental alienation, very seriously. Husband Christopher Watts, 33, is being held without bail, and faces three counts of murder and three counts of interfering with evidence. She was a malignant narcissist who wrecked havoc when she was questioned. But Shannon was not normal, since she had her whole materialistic/I and my kiddos are so sick con gig going. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . He was an empty canvas, grey rock, cipher. Yes, R228, I agree with everything you wrote. ^ to be fair, Trent Bolte has them all beat in the crazy department. R19, my mistake. Chris Owns his dysfunctional behavior. to brutally cutting off their air supply & feeling nothing as they grunt and move around under the Yankees blanket struggling to breathe? Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." I wrote that R420 post on the last thread, out of ballistic anger at how this confidence woman (conwoman) is getting canonized on other forums. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. True R63. What a tragedy. It is how you build one. Only they know, but I bet that is the case. 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