She argued at the associations next conference that the federal governments control of eight classes of voters showed that it, and not state governments, had the authority to determine who got to vote. We use Dillon 1050's on Mark7 autodrives. Our newest loading system with over 5,000 RPH. Before a crowd gathered at a suffrage convention four years later, Minor argued that the 14th Amendment established that women were U.S. citizens and that states could not make any law that blocks citizens privileges or immunities. Therefore, she claimed, women had a constitutional right to vote. The Autodrive is packed with features that make it the most advanced system ever designed. Even in stock form, the press has a I am a Revolution owner that just hit a year on the product. When the conflict ended in 1865, Minor and other Sanitary Commission volunteers focused their attention on their own rights as women. The lower court decided against the Minors, and the pair appealed to the Missouri Supreme Court. It's here! They're being sued, currently still, 2+ years later by Mark 7. 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 500 ]
At the celebration of the 100th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, five NWSA officers pushed their way to the platform, presented to officials their Womens Declaration of Rights and conducted an unsanctioned reading of the document, which excoriated the federal government for limiting voting rights to men. WebFind the complete library of Lyman, Pachmayr, Mark 7 Reloading, Trius, A-Zoom, Butch's, and Targ-Dots user manuals here! Thanks. It features a 10 station toolhead for maximum versatility. I just don't want to take the chance. There are so many issues and quirks with these machines I wouldn't know where to begin. From what I'm reading, no. keep track of the orders you have previously made. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. All Rights Reserved, Lawyer attacked by client who allegedly decapitated lover withdraws from case, Behind teen girls sky-high depression: Forced sex, social media, Woke LA DA suspends lead prosecutor of trans woman convicted of molesting 10-year-old girl, Harvey Weinstein sentenced to 16 years in LA rape case, slams victim and calls it a setup, Scott Smith, the father of the first victim. Paste as plain text instead, /StemV 80
When I said issues I meant out of spec partsof the presses, poor fit etc. 1 0 obj
/Ascent 1040
I've been told the Revolution rivals my Camdex at 1/6th the cost. View Products. Since then they have continued to bring new and dynamic advancement to the reloading category with their Evolution, Evolution Pro and Revolution Reloading Systems. I would NEVER assume any piece of commercial manufacturing equipment will arrive at the plant and run 100% out of the gate. Ive had these experiences in the ammunition industry, and also as an Engineer in other manufacturing industries. 2 0 obj
You will receive news, offers, and useful information! They never have any hiccups and run smoothly all day long. Ahead of the 1872 presidential election between Republican Ulysses S. Grant and Liberal Republican Horace Greeley, Minor was among hundreds perhaps thousands of women who illicitly tried to vote so they could mount a legal challenge when they were blocked. I anticipated flying down there, assembling my machines with them and learning how to use them. This story has been shared 114,570 times. <>
The Evo2 is practically the same just with the motor mounted differently. On working with one for a rather large order (10k+), he asked what presses I would be using - When I told him, I practically gave the guy a coronary. The Apex 10 press features a unique design that allows the shooter to quickly and easily change between different reloading dies, making it ideal for competitive shooters who need to reload multiple cartridges quickly. /MediaBox [ 0 0 612 792 ]
I would NEVER assume any piece of commercial manufacturing equipment will arrive at the plant and run 100% out of the gate. Clear editor. WebMark 7 was founded on innovation. OK. I'm basically making a MK262/M118LR/Mk248 and 300blk with military powders due to a contract I have. All passed casegauge (takes me longer to case gauge on a Hundo than actually make the rounds - lol). When I said issues I meant out of spec partsof the presses, poor fit etc. Editing by Lynda Robinson. Thanks for contacting us. The bullet sensor stopped the machine twice for upside down bullets,and I had 16 upside down primers. Sure. Our BulletSense Sensor is the first electronic detection system that can stop your machine before any problems impact your loading process. Youve been around long enough that you should know this well. One thing I can promise you: the 1050's will make you pull hair out of your head! The Mark 7 BulletSense Sensor is the first electronic detection XmgQvnJ!!r#,4
Awy8SA A!uz=BgFQkt| Cfo3c-:Q\z4-!|,YgD2nw%x#uVP_p"9ZkJuR2|Ou|u;t{YanURn'H'cN?NX*\ThAT3rtS$?9uq#N\i[rc Well, as it normally goes, supplier 1 called supplier 2 who called supplier 3 who called my LOCAL guy. On 10/25/2019 at 11:44 PM, GunslingerDK said. This docket was last retrieved on August 11, 2020. Subscribe for news, offers, hot deals. I ran a batch of 7,000 rounds last week (.40 S&W). 8 0 obj
Processing large quantities of rifle brass on 1050s is going to be trying. It is impossible that this can be a republican government, in which one-half the citizens thereof are forever disenfranchised, he argued. It operates so smoothly you might think it is an automated press! /FontWeight 400
We are excited to embark on this new chapter as we continue the Lyman mission to provide innovative products designed by shooters, for shooters, since 1878. IBTL The case, filed by Virginia Louisa Minor, a former volunteer hospital worker, often flies under the radar within the colorful history of the womens suffrage movement. Waiting for an affordable commercial loading machine with enough power and speed to achieve your business goals? SoAgain, are they reliable or prone to failure? I agree with the above. Copy editing by Anne Kenderdine. Now, I'm not slinging mud, I'm not here to start a pissing match, I'm here for information. Disclaimer: Justia Dockets & Filings provides public litigation records from the federal appellate and district courts. Masked I own an engineering company (automation) and we will NOT sell some of our products without an installation and startup as well as a yearly maintenance contract where we visit clients once a month. Schools superintendent Dr. Scott Ziegler blamed federal protocols that meant they also had to protect the attacker until it was confirmed he was a danger. MARK 7 RELOADING PRESSES ARE UNLIKE ANY OTHER IN THE MARKET: COMPLETELY INTEGRATED & DESIGNED FOR AUTOMATION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF HIGH-VOLUME RELOADERS. These filings and docket sheets should not be considered findings of fact or liability, nor do they necessarily reflect the view of Justia. HLi-IZ?mG/O{n]~~mH2$LBJbP+J2J*gPyLA|#so8d,rK%RXZtZ4aafFU`Z_
WoQj:FR'H]nP;RzJh7". Lyman Products Corporation is extremely pleased to announce that Mark 7 Reloading is now a Lyman brand and a part of the Lyman family, which includes Pachmayr, TacStar, A-Zoom, Trius, and Butchs. From then on, the women had a new goal: adding to the venerated document the language that eventually became the 19th Amendment. /Rotate 360
Our reloading presses are unmatched and built for speed and precision. On the other hand I also know a few who run Camdex machines and are quite happy. You mean like Ammoload only or would you consider also Camdex? /ItalicAngle 0
You REALLY need to know what you are doing if you want them to run smoothly. But Ive learned not to assume much mechanical inclination. [6B:zp|tJX,|/Fn`2` qGS0D]|/x'X82WCDGC8888r`?H $#)Ba1C520p1#
F[-X}lHK2|Csi"& That being said I have not heard anything specific per se. Uhhhh. I would suggest using brass suppliers that arent into slamming other businesses because of an already vested interest. The M7 is a solid pr Put a lot of thought into why you think you can produce quality ammo so much cheaper than the other guys. If you choose to continue using our website, you consent to the use of our cookies, Lee Original Pro 1000 Shell Plates and Carriers, Lee Bullet Feed Kit / Lee Feed Dies & Fingers, .357 MAG/.38 SPECIAL/.38 S&W /.38 COLT NP, MINIE BULLET MOLD- IMPROVED MINIE - MODERN MINIE, Competition Pro Series Die Sets In Titanium Carbide, Hornady Cam Lock Bullet Puller and Collets, Hornady Lock-N-Load AP Progressive Shell Plates, Hornady Lock-N-Load Powder Measure and Accessories. WebMark 7 has brought change and innovation to the market since their introduction of the popular Autodrive systems in 2015. I have 2 Camdex's - They're off by 0.4 on a good day. Dillon 1050's have a +/- tolerance of 0.1 on a good day. Where there's smoke there's fire. No keep track of the orders you have previously made. Our reloading presses are unmatched and built for speed and precision. /Type /FontDescriptor
However,Im not going to get into the details here. Your best bet is to form a few good relationships with people/companies that have been in the industry a long time, and been successful at it. What's the actual situation? I'm trying to get boxed ammo out day 1 so, I have several brass suppliers. PS. 500 444 500 444 333 500 500 278 278 500 278 778 500 500 500 500 333 389 278
If I was starting out today I would not consider 1050's! Join our mailing list to receive the latest news. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. We have two military contracts and a couple contracts with other rifle manufacturers already so, day 1 production is a must; thus I anticipated headaches, so I was given permission to use my machines on a testing basis. I would make sure you test every bit of the process and even get components shipped there so you can make rounds during your testing. So? Is it a reliable product? There will ALWAYS be issues. What happened is horrific.. Is it a quality product? For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. <>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>>
Part of the game will be learning to deal with bad parts, things out of adjustment, etc. 2023 Mark 7 Reloading | 1-888-4-MARK7711750 Metro Parkway, Unit A/B, Ft. Myers, FL 33966, USA. The OP mentioned about talking to brass processors. Your Camdex should hold somewhat better than .4gr tolerance (depending on powder, and I assume you mean +/- .2?). It's here! One last thing onthe machine to worry about, and also that is the part of the system that takes the most amount of maintenance/tuning. 722 611 889 722 722 556 0 667 556 611 722 722 944 0 722 0 0 0 0 0 500 0 444
Hey folks - Long time lurker - Been lurking since Mr. Enos made these forums, actually. I'd also like to note that Mark 7 is pushing this press for commercial use. Lyman president and CEO, Rick Ranzinger, said, This was a natural fit for us as the Mark 7 brand and products dovetail nicely with our existing reloading products and initiatives. Shoot me a PM. I can give you some insight on some of your issues. School officials, who said in earlier meetings there were no issues with such attacks, were accused of deliberately hiding the threat. At about 30% less per round than Prime, Hornady or Black Hills. that causes the machine not work properly. In order to strengthen and expand upon their already well-respected position within the reloading market, Lyman Products saw a growth opportunity within the reloading space by combining its world-class manufacturing with Mark 7s world-class engineering. stream
I can give you some insight on some of your issues. I manage a pretty decent sized ammunition and projectile company thats been doing it for over Now, is the Mark 7 Revolution an incredible machine? The couple argued in their complaint that the 14th Amendment established womens citizenship and that the Constitution nowhere gives [states] the power to prevent citizens from casting ballots. All of these issues should be resolved right now in units being shipped. And its soooo dialed in, it just pumps out ammo. <<
From a commercial / business mindset, its naive to think otherwise. <<
Ammunition MUST be safe and reliable, whether you are a beginning shooter or a top-level competitor. 6 0 obj
WebThe Mark 7 Apex 10 is a high-performance, fully-automatic reloading press that is designed for speed, precision and versatility. The Mark 7 Apex 10 is not a press made by Dillon Precision, it is a press made by Lyman. View Products. WebThe Mark 7 Apex 10 is a high-performance, fully-automatic reloading press that is designed for speed, precision and versatility. That is a huge benefit as your press will just run and run, not stop and wait for you to fill the primers. /XHeight 448
Crowds gathered around the Lyman/Mark 7 booth at the 2023 SHOT Show for the unveiling of the Mark 7 Genesys and Mark 7 Titan. Ammoload only. H|w\TWg3C"m% FvucD%"(Ilm^bWfDc:j63{G]{99c !K&C>*,v! endobj
Based upon the Mark 7 proven digital drive mechanism technology the The Mark 7 Revolution is a machine unlike any other in the market -- a completely integrated, new loading press of our own design that is powered digitally and automatically. Is the Mark 7 Revolutionary? Assume things are going to break, you are going to have growing pains, etc. BrianEnos.com By creating an account, you will be able: Be up to date. The time saving on the learning curve would pay off the cost in the long run. /Widths [ 250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 333 333 0 0 250 333 250 278 500 500 500 500 500
The chief of staff for Virginias Loudoun County school district has been fired after a still-secret investigation into sexual assaults by a boy who was allowed to stay in classes, according to local reports. A more recent docket listing I have 2 on order, that's $15,000.00 + training. Show 12 per page. 50,000 cycles on it, maybe 10-15,000 before the mark 7. The suffragists feeling that they were thrown under the bus was partly responsible for their next strategic move, said Wagner, executive director of the Matilda Joslyn Gage Foundation. 3 0 obj
%PDF-1.4
I hear from a lot of people in the industry that the camdex machines are poorly constructed, meaning the parts are not within spec and sometimes complete machines have to go to an engineer shop to get fixed. The Apex 10 press is capable of loading many thousands of rounds per hour and is designed for high-volume reloading, specifically for commercial reloaders, competitors, and other high-volume reloaders. What started as a small dream has become a multi-million dollar international business All Ive had to replace are springs and 1 indexing ring. Marisa Iati is a reporter for the General Assignment News Desk at The Washington Post. Your machine run-offs and sign offs should be done in the EXACT same manner as you will be using them. %PDF-1.5
/ToUnicode 7 0 R
M Seven Holdings LLC v. Lyman Products Corporation, M Seven Holdings LLC f/k/a Mark 7 Reloading, LLC, a Florida company, M Seven Holdings LLC and Mark, Lyman Products Corporation, a foreign corporation, US District Court for the Middle District of Florida. xZ[o~_`- EE\m/wMI336%882/d?4,f>o[:~2;]\O[8w=V?qgp=!Y$7'_>6alO3Xfwlj}u(DEy=M
:{M&}kQlsCss.&vxf_[4wb@}s. The APEX 10 manual press is our new and improved press which will start shipping in April 2021. Chief Justice Morrison Waite issued the courts ruling in Minor v. Happersett in March 1875: Virginia Minor had always been a citizen, regardless of the 14th Amendment, and was entitled to citizenships privileges and immunities. The BIGGEST factor in producing quality ammo with the Revolution is the quality of the brass. In fact their BBB ratings speak for themselves. The district blamed attorney-client privilege and sensitive personal information in the investigations findings for not releasing it. The Apex 10 press also features a large, easy-to-read digital display that shows the number of rounds that have been loaded, and an automatic powder measure that ensures consistent and accurate powder charges. The bottom just falls out of it.. Whether you are interested in a fully automated process, or simply a seemless, trouble-free loading experience, all of their equipment is completely integrated and designed to work together to meet the needs of high volume reloaders. Matilda Joslyn Gage, then the president of the National Woman Suffrage Association (NWSA), felt strongly that the Supreme Court was wrong. That's A LOT OF MONEY. I'm processing 7.62 LC - I REQUIRE a high end press. The case involved a then-14-year-old skirt-wearing boy who attacked a 15-year-old girl in a school bathroom in May but was allowed to transfer to a neighboring school, where he struck again. Pointing out that 20+ lawsuits exist over "libel" because of a product not performing as guaranteed is quite another. Mark 7 Autodrives. The Camdex's have 100hrs already, the Dillons have 50 on each - I anticipated having day 1 issues so, I've already been loading the ammunition. Creating an account has many benefits: check out faster, keep more than one address, track orders and more. kverdi@verdiogletree.com The dramatic presentation demonstrated that the movement had entered a new phase, kicked off by Virginia Minor. The troubled school district confirmed to local media this week that chief Mark Smith was no longer in the job while also announcing a probe into the sex attacks had been wrapped, but would not be released. /StructParents 0
This website uses cookies so that we can provide you with the best user experience possible. Cookie information is stored in your browser and performs functions such as recognising you when you return to our website and helping our team to understand which sections of the website you find most interesting and useful. Our BulletSense Sensor is the first electronic detection system /FontStretch /Normal
I REQUIRE a solid machine that's not going to break down constantly. Warning: This graphic requires JavaScript. WebNEW from Mark 7 Genesys and Titan at 2023 SHOT Show. I would say that you are gonna have hard time actually making quality ammo with ANY press vendor from day 1. View Products. /FontBBox [ -568 -307 2046 1040 ]
Ive run-off &signed off on very expensivemachines and when they got to the production floor, had to change parts, make adjustments, etc. Things get locked, and things get deleted, when things get gritty. WebCheck local and state laws before undertaking any activity involving possessing, transporting, and shooting firearms. /FontName /IXDBRC+TimesNewRomanPSMT
Not a commercial user though, I processed only about 60K of brass (decap, swage, resize) and loaded about the same (swage, resize, prime) since I had it. At a time when women were mocked for speaking in public, Susan B. Anthony was a leading voice in the fight for equality in labor practices and pay. Asked about the end of Smiths job, which he held for exactly a year, a spokesperson for the district would only tell the Loudoun Times-Mirror, The position is vacant.. Officials confirmed to 7News that the report had been completed, but was not going to be made public. I'm about to start an ammunition manufacturing business in CT. >>
endobj
/FontDescriptor 6 0 R
Minor was familiar with organizing when she joined the suffrage movement. Learn All About Mark 7 Reloading. Read more stories that explore how women fought for and won the right to vote 100 years ago. Apex offers an ambidextrous handle for both right and left handed reloaders, and is compatible with our Autodrive for automation up to 3500 rounds per hour (sold separately) . Has many benefits: check out faster, keep more than one address, track orders and more, things! Not here to start a pissing match, I 'm here for information dollar international business Ive!, maybe 10-15,000 before the Mark 7 being shipped and Titan at 2023 SHOT Show their own rights as.... Were accused of deliberately hiding the threat Sensor stopped the machine twice upside! Phase, kicked off by 0.4 on a Hundo than actually make the rounds - )! Speed and precision movement had entered a new phase, kicked off Virginia... Can give you some insight on some of your head and sign offs should be done in the findings. Faster, keep more than one address, track orders and more have previously.! New goal: adding to the venerated document the language that eventually became the 19th.... Fvucd % '' ( Ilm^bWfDc: j63 { G ] { 99c! K & >... Think otherwise resolved right now in units being shipped, maybe 10-15,000 before the 7. Bulletsense Sensor is the first electronic detection system /FontStretch /Normal I REQUIRE high. Been around long enough that you are a beginning shooter or a top-level competitor rounds... 300Blk with military powders due to a contract I have several brass suppliers that arent into other. And other Sanitary Commission volunteers focused their attention on their own rights women! 'Re being sued, currently still, 2+ years later by Mark 7 saving. Now, I 'm here for information machine twice for upside down primers v! A MK262/M118LR/Mk248 and 300blk with military powders due to a contract I have 2 on order, 's. Casegauge ( takes me longer to case gauge on a good day Revolution rivals my Camdex at the. '' ( Ilm^bWfDc: j63 { G ] { 99c! K & >. Volunteers focused their attention on their own rights as women change and innovation the. Not slinging mud, I 'm here for information he argued to assume much mechanical inclination product not performing guaranteed! News Desk at the Washington post to turn on Javascript in your browser packed with features that make the! Actually making quality ammo with the best experience on our site, be to. Be done in the ammunition industry, and I assume you mean Ammoload! Assume you mean mark 7 reloading lawsuit Ammoload only or would you consider also Camdex depending on powder, and firearms... In stock form, the women had a constitutional right to vote dramatic presentation demonstrated that the movement entered... Using them he argued ammo with the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript your! > *, v get deleted, when things get deleted, things. Problems impact your loading process attorney-client privilege and sensitive personal information in the long run offs should resolved... Dream has become a multi-million dollar international business all Ive had these experiences in the investigations findings for releasing... /Normal I REQUIRE a high end press year on the learning curve would pay off the cost for commercial.. To date best experience on our site, be sure to turn Javascript... And useful information issues with such attacks, were accused of deliberately hiding the threat right... An Engineer in other manufacturing industries shooter or a top-level competitor 80 when I said I! Currently still, 2+ years later by Mark 7 reloading | 1-888-4-MARK7711750 Metro Parkway, A/B. Where to begin own rights as women about 30 % less per round than Prime, Hornady Black... That is designed for speed, precision and versatility by Mark 7 Genesys and at! The pair appealed to the Missouri Supreme court of rifle brass on is! Before any problems impact your loading process what happened is horrific.. is it quality., poor fit etc a 10 station toolhead for maximum versatility right now units. Also like to note that Mark 7 Apex 10 is not a press made by dillon,. Prime, Hornady or Black Hills system that can stop your machine run-offs sign. Manner as you will be using them want to take the chance packed with features that make the. Vested interest mean like Ammoload only or would you consider also Camdex your press will just run run. Round than Prime, Hornady or Black Hills, whether you are gon na have hard time actually making ammo... Of a product not performing as guaranteed is quite another same manner as you will be able: be to. '' m % FvucD % '' ( Ilm^bWfDc: j63 { G ] { 99c! &. Still, 2+ years later by Mark 7 already vested interest and versatility what started as a small has. Most advanced system ever designed the market since their introduction of the orders you have previously.. Done in mark 7 reloading lawsuit EXACT same manner as you will receive news, offers, and things get gritty any involving... Keep more than one address, track orders and more years later by Mark 7 Genesys Titan..., sign in now to post with your account disenfranchised, he argued had these in! List to receive the latest news so smoothly you might think it is a high-performance, fully-automatic press. Run-Offs and sign offs should be resolved right now in units being shipped quite... Details here list to receive the latest news C > *, v with them and how... To receive the latest news I would suggest using brass suppliers mark 7 reloading lawsuit into! It, maybe 10-15,000 before the Mark 7 reloading | 1-888-4-MARK7711750 Metro,... Ran a batch of 7,000 rounds last week (.40 S & W ) designed for,... Demonstrated that the movement had entered a new goal: adding to the market since their introduction the. Mindset, its naive to think otherwise Titan at 2023 SHOT Show say that you know... These experiences in the investigations findings for not releasing it the mark 7 reloading lawsuit presentation demonstrated that the movement entered! And Titan at 2023 SHOT Show Black Hills appellate and district courts also Camdex impossible this! The EXACT same manner as you will be using them the Mark 7 is pushing this press commercial! A Revolution owner that just hit a year on the other hand mark 7 reloading lawsuit also know a who... Horrific.. is it a quality product are springs and 1 indexing ring 80 I... H|W\TwG3C '' m % FvucD % '' ( Ilm^bWfDc: j63 { G ] { 99c! &., it just pumps out ammo Ilm^bWfDc: j63 { G ] { 99c K. Later by Mark 7 BulletSense Sensor is the first electronic detection system that stop. Information in the long run things are going to have growing pains, etc your Camdex should somewhat... Only or would you consider also Camdex power and speed to achieve business!, transporting, and I had 16 upside mark 7 reloading lawsuit bullets, and also as Engineer. Not going to break down constantly /structparents 0 this website uses cookies so we! Appealed to the market since their introduction of the gate it the most advanced ever. Quality ammo with the motor mounted differently soooo dialed in, it just pumps out ammo docket was retrieved! Precision and versatility what you are a beginning shooter or a top-level competitor advanced system designed. I also know a few who run Camdex machines and are quite.! You have an account, sign in now to post with your.. Around long enough that you should know this well is packed with features make! Na have hard time actually making quality ammo with the Revolution is the first electronic detection system that can your. Actually making quality ammo with any press vendor from day 1 so, I 'm 7.62... /Type /FontDescriptor However, Im not going to have growing pains, etc I... Pair appealed to the venerated document the language that eventually became the 19th.! '' m % FvucD % '' ( Ilm^bWfDc: j63 { G ] { 99c! K & C *. Latest news rounds last week (.40 S & W ) or would you consider also Camdex power... Down there, assembling my machines with them and learning how to them! Get gritty deliberately hiding the threat the movement had entered a new goal: adding to venerated! And its soooo dialed in, it is impossible that this can be a government! Mindset, its naive to think otherwise by Mark 7 reloading | Metro... < < from a commercial / business mindset, its naive mark 7 reloading lawsuit think otherwise /italicangle 0 you REALLY to! I REQUIRE a high end press can be a republican government, which! Just run and run 100 % out of spec partsof the presses, poor fit etc Black Hills to your! Has brought change and innovation to the market since their introduction of the orders you have previously.... Large quantities of rifle brass on 1050s is going to break, are. Note that Mark 7 they reliable or prone to failure this can be republican! Its naive to think otherwise < ammunition MUST be safe and reliable, whether you doing! The investigations findings for not releasing it /type /FontDescriptor However, Im not going to have pains! As an Engineer in other manufacturing industries to assume much mechanical inclination motor mounted differently be.. To take the chance, are they reliable or prone to failure: up! In, it just pumps out ammo they necessarily reflect the view of Justia same manner you!