And if you have so go into such length to disprove a blessed church you are the deceiver please reach out to me on this matter and lets pray on it ..In Jesus name I ask or be held accountable . As Paul taught the Romans (Ch. It seems weve already agreed that Furtick went too far when he claimed that Jesus COULD NOT perform a miracle because of someones unbelief. I will try this and possibly get back with you when I get his response! The alternative is heresy, as defined in the traditional, historic sense: limiting Gods power and ability to do what He wishes to do is a non-starter. For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. God is a molecular structure that fills all in all. Was named last year to the SuperSoul 100 by the Oprah Winfrey Network. Its also biblical. He abandoned the tabernacle of Shiloh, He sent the ark into captivity, and so on. Because I know my God. We are as youre aware saved by grace, through faith and this is NOT from ourselves, it is the gift of God. In other words, God mostly withheld His power from the stiff-necked people who held Jesus in contempt. Yet that is not true, for the word is clear; John 12:47 And if anyone hears My words and does notbelieve,I do not judge him; forI did not come to judge the world but to save the world. He and his wife have three children. Right, I also hope youll take all of this in the spirit in which it was written, as truly iron does sharpen iron, as our Great brother Paul said, for we know in part. Jesus still has a body, by the way He didnt stop being human after the resurrection. Will you do yours? If you agree, we have a LOT of work to do. Generally, the rest disprove modalism. Join us on @elevationplus as we dive deeper into the sermon. We would be saying what Scripture itself does not say, and we should avoid that. When we read Revelation in full, we see that it is both a group of personal letters from Jesus to seven real-life churches in Asia Minor, and a prophetic vision given to John. Thanks. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ,the new creationhas come:The old has gone, the new is here! Then you will be able to test and approve what Gods will ishis good, pleasing and perfect will. "We knew it was not in desperate need for more churches. Id like to ask you some very direct questions, and hope that youll be straightforward in your answer: Do you consider Steven Furtick a false teacher, or not? If there were a better choice, God would have made it instead. Second, its the kind of claim that cant be tested, so its safe from those who would question it. Modalism has been considered heretical by the entire Body of Christ for almost 2000 years, so its not as if its a new idea. Why dont you take this seriously, Esther? Heres a quote from Furtick for your consideration: Do you agree with Steven Furtick on this matter? As this comes back to the baby and bath water analogy. I dont agree with everything Furtick says, but even a heretic can say things that are true, as one should not throw the baby out with the bath water, and yes, we need to stay in line with scripture, but also we need to keep in context. I have had an on again, off again relationship with my faith throughout the years. That doesnt mean, however, that its okay to be unfaithful or wicked. With more than 4,000 attendees at its seven services every Sunday, Furtick's church is also one of the youngest around, drawing new families as well as high schoolers and college-age kids. We need to be careful to avoid presuming Gods mind. This is pretty basic, and every Word of Faith teacher including Steven Furtick does it. The home was valued at $1.78 million. I teach this very plainly: bad things are always bad, and never good. Steven and Holly are blessed with three children; two sons, Elijah and Graham, and a daughter, Abbey. It does appear that most often people do this to stop any questioning because they arent able to actually defend their views. Narcigesis makes Scripture about me. Each has a relationship with the other we see whats called a subject-object relationship. I would also consider it blasphemy. Ernest Angley made the same kind of claim: By begging God in fear, doubt, despair, rather than asking in faith, He is limited. As with all Word of Faith teachers, this demotes God to a subordinate position and elevates man to a superior position. God did not break the Law, He followed it to the letter but, rather than punishing us, He punished Himself as a demonstration of love. Unfortunately, based on his own words, hes not like that. Those things might include speaking in a foreign tongue, or healing, or something as simple as gaining insight into how to explain the gospel to someone. Many people such as Paul himself before his conversion, along with his brother Pharisees, know the Word. If not, Elevation music is just music some great, some good, some average, some not so much. Ive only done the same. Sure, but they knew not God as intimate as we do, for they had the Holy Spirit about them, yet we have the Holy Spirit in us, Great difference! The little gods doctrine is, quite simply, heresy. Be like a Berean and test everything including what I say here with Scripture. Finally: we who follow Jesus should not consider false teachers our enemies. Then in John 1:12 this power is received by faith, then in Ephesians 3:7 this gift of grace is through working of his power. New to your work. In any other context, I have no doubt you would share my concern: In the beginning, Marduk created the heavens and the earth. Look at His actual words, in John 12: For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. If he really is biblically trinitarian, he should know better than to explain anything about the trinity that could be misconstrued as Sabellianism. This is also why Jesus said; According to your faith be it unto you. I find John 5:2-15 to be the Achilles heal for Andrew Womack and his ilk. First, He restrained His anger then, furious, He rejected Israel completely. and this Christians power is not his own, as after God used Peter to heal a lame beggar, the apostle explained to astonished onlookers that the man was healed not by Peters own power but through faith in the name of Jesus Christ: Fellow Israelites, why does this surprise you? When good teachers do it, its irresponsible. Please, I beg you: do your homework. Its that we wield the same kind of power that God has. He was unable to do many miracles there because of their disbelief. And PHILLIPS If what you believe really matters to you, let me encourage you to begin a fresh journey into the Scriptures. Didnt He guide them into all truth, as you say He guides you? Hello, I am in my mid thirties and trying to rebuild my faith. If you dont know that, you simply havent read the New Testament very much. Almost all of the books in the New Testament warn us about false teachers, and tell us what to do when we find them. The wine at the wedding in Cana was non-alcoholic. We can know they are three distinct persons, as indicted in this conversation; Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: Genesis 1:26. Is that the standard we find in the New Testament? GodWords isnt really about me, so theres not much but you can find some info in the About GodWords pages, and my personal Facebook and Twitter accounts are linked at the top of every page. Jude 1:3-4. We dont agree that healing belongs to us in Christ Jesus, because the Word of God does not say that. The power of God was in Nazareth, but it was trapped in their perspective. Instead of seeing Gods grace in this life and His mercy they didnt receive and STD or worse, the justify their sin going as far as to say It was obviously Gods will I have this baby, so I dont have to recognize my sin in its conception and anyone who tries to call me to account is going against Gods will.. Yes, I have the final word on what gets published, but that only applies when people are being unduly combative or promoting things I cant promote. "God began to fill me with this anticipation that I had a destiny and a calling," he said. This is not the God of the Bible, its someone else entirely. Ask yourself, who was Jesus constantly praying to, himself? There are no internal relationships in the Godhead but thats contrary to a whole bunch of clear passages of Scripture. The blood of Jesus is far superior to the blood of animal sacrifices in the eyes of God, so much so that sacrifice of animals ceased being acceptable to him since the completion of the atoning work of his Son on the cross, Hebrews 9:11-14 Yet not as I will, but as you will. His reason? He fulfilled the Law. Like blind Bartimaeus, who asked Jesus to have mercy on him Mark 10:46-52 and Jesus asked; What do you want Me to do for you? Yes, I agree with everything you said. The old saying; If I had a nickel for every time this was presented. Well anyway, I would have a lot of nickels! There are too many to list like this, showing that there was a two fold ministry, of both his revealed power and his response to faith. Theres a technical and legal side to this, too. Multnomah Books. As for, Do you, in any sense, have power over God? Paul said he was not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: Notice the connection between Power and faith Not just theological stuff, but ALL true things. He wasnt referring to the gospel of John, or the epistles of John, either. The blind man said unto him, Lord, that I might receive my sight. Thank you for this. I have recently been struggling with breaking free from my past sins. Thanks. Meanwhile, I see a whole generation being deceived. The Holy Spirit is working in your hearts, and part of that process is seeing through the fantasies put forward by wolves in sheeps clothing. See what God says and then compare that with what you currently believe. We all know that its easier to stand up when others stand up, and harder to be the only person in a crowd to do something. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. The scripture are flush with such scripture, and I shared many in my last response, as truly all things (healing, deliverance, and salvation, which is the greatest miracle) are possible, but one has to believe! It would be a mistake to apply these penalties to any other passage of Scripture, as the context will not allow us to do so. That would make Him subordinate to the law, and to the one who gave the law. He just was no longer visible. I was raised Roman Catholic and went to private Catholic school. Any insights with this is much appreciated. The doctrine of the Trinity comes from the Bible. Admittedly, this is absolutely a rabbit trail but I am enjoying your feedback so I will press on. I know that his command leads to eternal life. God isnt morphing like a CGI character from one state of being into another. Too few Christians take such things seriously. Seriously. Thank you for your encouraging words. We dont want to fall into the same kinds of errors that false teachers fall into that is, reading a passage and then drawing conclusions that dont match the context. The misconception I encounter is that His fulfillment of the law means it no longer applies. You werent willing to provide a simple answer to my question about why Paul wasnt healed. There seem to be a lot of controversies/criticisms about Steven Furtick and Elevation church doctrines and also rumors of false teaching. No, Im not aware of him teaching on sin and repentance. Like you, I think we should be careful about making accusations. (Furticks parents named him Larry Stevens Furtick Jr.), 2. Can He be contained in anything? In point of fact, it is undeniably heretical. As Paul notes, our glorified bodies will be just like His so, as far as Scripture is concerned, Jesus still has a body at this moment. Some professing Christians have concluded from texts like this that human faith gives power to God. 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